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deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: my cooney is the -- host: my cooney is -- mike cooney is the lieutenant governor of montana. we want to thank spectrum in helena for setting this up. our next stop is in boise, idaho. c-span continues live coverage of the event in washington. you hear from the federal agency's management deputy administrator. live coverage on c-span from washington. the morning. if i could ask -- good morning. if i could ask everyone to silence their cell phones. something i forget to do, but we want to make sure we accommodate everyone. my name is frank.
i am the director at george washington university for -- let me welcome our viewers watching at home from space -- from c-span. you're in for a real treat. i have the great privilege of welcoming back dr. daniel kaniewski, the deputy administrator for fema. know, has gone his phd from george washington university. for complete transparency, i have known him for 20 years now. i can tell you, without a doubt, he is preparing for the job he is in today for the 20 years. jumping to hot issues,
dan has always made sure when he was my deputy at george washington university, we remember that only the mission of fema, but preparedness, response, recovery, the core forions fema provides civilians and the security of the american people. every time we jumped in another direction, he pulled me back to remember our roots and the critical role fema place in it. a major year in terms of natural disasters. it is the costliest in history. all of us continue to be touched and care deeply about those who have been impacted in major hurricanes, fires, floods. it seems like it is the year of the mega-disaster.
what you do not see is the hard work that goes into trying to build up a resilience and enhance our safety and security. fema'sl share strategic plan. not only for the upcoming year, but into the down years. learneddiscuss lessons from these natural disasters in 2017. also, a sneak peek on what we should think about going forward. in some ways, fema is going back to its initial mission. ofwas created in the offices the threat of the soviet union. unfortunately, some of the threats are back. without further a do, then introduce dr. daniel kaniewski, who will share 10 to 50 minutes or so. then, we'll -- 10 to 15 minutes or so. then, we will get into q & a. [applause]
deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: thank you, frank. it is great to see former friends and colleagues. thank you for the warm welcome. i will enjoy today. i will enjoy sharing lessons from the 2017 hurricane season. i will enjoy telling you about what we are doing in the future of fema by sharing our strategic plan. let me take a step back. as many of you know, 2017 was a record-setting year for disasters. know, i wasou awaiting senate confirmation the summer. i watched as hurricanes harvey and irma came ashore on tv, just like many of you. quite frankly, it was killing me. i wanted to be there. i wanted to be at fema. i wanted to help. quite frankly, i thought i was going to miss hurricane season. it turns out my fears were unfounded. as hurricane maria came ashore, i was named the act eating -- the acting deputy administrator
of fema. let me share lessons from hurricane maria. first, let's put in context. hurricane maria was the largest air and sea mission in fema history. it was the largest commodity mission in fema history. it was the largest medical response for the federal government. thanks to our partners at hhs, who moved in quickly to restore the hospitals to function. it was the largest power restoration mission in u.s. history. the u.s. army corps of engineers worked tirelessly to restore power to a very aged and broken infrastructure in puerto rico. what are some of the lessons learned? first, we are reviewing the lessons from the disaster. which have been seen
firsthand. we are not waiting until after the disaster. we are collecting the lessons in real-time. let me share. while histics -- disaster has its own glitches tackle challenges, puerto rico -- has -- while h disaster has ownedn technical -- logistical challenges, puerto rico -- the scale of the operation was unprecedented. is fema mustarned be ready to support the register goal requirements -- the logistical requirements. u.s.. not be in the they may be in remote areas. the lesson learned is, we need
to be able to provide sustained, logistical support for weeks and months. sometimes, those may be in very difficult to reach areas. two, sheltering and housing survivors -- it was a challenge. fema provides short-term assistance such as putting .isaster survivors in hotels in texas, with hurricane harvey, we tried something innovative. we realize with harvey, it was such a huge housing challenge. it was on the heels of a very busy year for us. what many of you may not realize is one hurricane harvey came ashore, fema was -- female had their personnel -- fema had their personnel deployed.
given the scale of the housing challenge, we went to the state and sodden innovative approach and soughtht an -- an innovative approach. texas death of to the plate and said, we can manage -- texas stepped up to the plate and said, we can manage. adapting to long-term as istructure outages -- discussed with the logistical challenge in support of the region for weeks and months, we have to realize infrastructure outages, which usually is a result of a disaster, it is ours
and is before water, power, and three occasions can come back online. in the case of area, it was weeks and months. how can we, not just female, but the intact -- just fema, but the support duringnt these infrastructure outages? gi -- sur surging resources and staff -- it could significantly impact other incidents. wintry rickett, we had other open disasters -- when maria hit, we had other open disasters. harvey was the second costliest disaster in u.s. history. now, overtaken by maria.
harvey was a huge disaster. it was a catastrophic disaster. we had deployed thousands of personnel. personnel, millions of meals and commodities. -- by time or a hit, we the time maria hit, we were stretched thin. we went to the u.s. department of homeland security and said help, fema does not have enough personnel to respond. our partners at the dhs stepped up to the plate and sourced personnel from 15 different federal departments and agencies. these are not trained responders. these are people who got a gmail from dhs and said we need help with support missions. especially in maria, we need bilingual speakers. thank you to the workforce who
stepped up to the plate and volunteered to the mission. shortly after maria, i went to a hospital. i saw -- what we were doing on the ground, we, the federal government, it the just -- government, he had a federal batch. i assumed he was dhs. i said thanks for explaining this to me. thek you for begin for disaster survivors and making sure the hospital can be operational. i said, i assume your hhs. he said no, i'm from nasa. -- assume you are from hhs. he said no, i'm from nasa. five, land use planning -- existing structure should be
relocated to safer areas to minimize impact from hazards. it is how and where we build and how the decisions affect local and regional risk. land use regulations are vital tools for local governments. we encourage decisions best reducing risk. in addition to codes, local enforcement of the codes is necessary. let's move on to where we go from here. on the slide, a quick summary. a is -- number one, fostering culture of preparedness. number two, readying the nation for catastrophic disasters. three, reducing the complexity of fema grants.
number one, culture preparedness -- something i am very passionate about. let's talk about individual preparedness. we need to acknowledge, during a disaster, individuals in the impacted communities are the first responders. we need to empower those individuals with lifesaving skills to help speed the response recovery -- response and recovery efforts. to those of you seated here, let's ask if if -- ask a few questions about the practical skills you can have or disaster. one, how many of you -- you do not have to raise your hand -- how many of you know to shut off the water following a major incident? if you house fire, tornado, or hurricane. if you had to, would you know where the shut off valve is in your home? do you know where the gas shutoff valve is in your home? do you know to check on your
neighbors? which of your neighbors may require special attention to to a special need? what about cpr? how many people know secure? -- know cpr? those are simple, practical skills that can make a difference in a disaster. we have talked about this for years at fema and dhs. ready.gov could provide excellent guidance for those who cannot raise her hand on those questions. two, we need to think a step ahead. we need our citizens to be financially prepared for a disaster. it means having an emergency -- sod -- emergency cash fund, you can buy things you need to prepare or after a disaster.
you need insurance. there is no more valuable disaster recovery tool than insurance. we need to dramatically increase coverage to close what i will call is the insurance cap. what is the insurance gap? the difference between what is currently insured and what is insurable. the gap is huge. when i talk about an insurance insurance, id for am talking about the national flood insurance program. everyone should have flood insurance, not just those in a 100-year-old floodplain. many homes were well out of the floodplain. many of them lacked insurance. it is not just flood insurance. it is all types of insurance --
property and car insurance. they are important. we aim to transfer those risks off of your back, off a disaster survivor's back, and the federal government's back. transfer the risk to the injuries and reinsurance markets. are moreh insurance likely to recover quickly and fully from a disaster. would you like an example? i justne harvey -- mentioned many of those outside of the floodplains that have insurance. for those who lacked flood insurance, they received fema assistance. it averaged $4000. for those who had flood insurance, the average payout on their claim was $110,000.
unless you think you can rebuild your home for $4000, i suggest everyone have insurance, including flood insurance. any home can flood. related to insurance, mitigation. we need to build more resilient communities to reduce the risks of people, property, and taxpayer dollars. developing a resilient community produces a loss of life and economic disruption. when communities are impacted, they should focus on rebuilding damagesto reduce the and promote economic stability. calling a moonshot, we aim to quadruple the nation's investment in mitigation by 2022. why are refocusing on mitigation? let me point to a study that will tell the story.
many of you, and his audience -- this audience for theast -- are -- past decade or more, we talked about it. it is changing. no longer is it one dollar invested, save four dollars later. thanks to a story -- a study, they are saying one dollar invested will save six dollars when a disaster strikes. that is a good return investment. goal two, readying the patient for catastrophic disasters. we can focus more on our efforts at fema. if we prepare our nation, citizens, communities, state and local governments to be better
prepared under goal one, fema should be able to focus its efforts on the truly catastrophic disasters. respondert a first after all. the naked a statistic. give you a- let me statistic. forrding to the gao -- those disasters, non-catastrophic disasters, fema is looking for the state and local governments to step up and lead those recovery efforts. -- efforts with fema's support. fema will continue to fund, but we will look for state and local governments to manage those programs.
i will assert it may be a high goal. it depends on the state or community. let's go back to the example earlier about housing in texas following hurricane harvey. the governor sent up to the plate and said, we can manage this. that is exactly what he did. the state stepped forward and is running the housing mission that is suddenly funded. it allows the state to administer innovative housing solutions appropriate for their state and local governments with full fema support. we have a term for this. i hope it goes viral. for the smaller disasters, we hope to have federally supported, state managed, locally executed. federally supported, state managed, and locally executed recovery programs. to help those programs that at a level to manage the smaller
disasters, we are rolling out fema integration teams. we can talk more about it in the q and a if you would like. number three, reducing convexity. fema is bureaucratic. it is not acceptable to a disaster survivor. a disaster survivor expects assistance quickly in the wake of a disaster that has upended their lives. we are committed to simple find the recovery process, making programs as clear and easy as possible for survivors to navigate. it is not just female. we -- just fema. we need to work across the federal agency to make sure the programs are integrated. the small business administration is providing many loans to homeowners to rebuild
in the wake of the disasters. we work closely with sba. can we make it a more seamless process? absolutely, we can. we endeavor to do it. let me end there. i would love to speak to frank and continue the dialogue with you. i want to say, i appreciate you having me. i appreciate all of you here and those watching on c-span, we appreciate your partnership. whether you're at the federal government are other federal agencies, state government, local governments, nongovernmental organizations, as well as the private sector. the private sector plays a key role. look for to talking more about it now. thank you. deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: thank you, dan -- mr. cilluffo: think you, dan. [applause] -- mr. cilluffo: thank you, dan. [applause]
mr. cilluffo: thank you, dan. time -- very short and time with what you are facing. the private sector in particular and vertical infrastructure loss in the world a place in ensuring vital services, i recently met -- i will not name the company, but a very large oil and gas company planned to factor in many weeks in a worst-case scenario they need to survive under those sorts of conditions. -- is that unique the company is looking in that direction? are you hearing from others? is that realistic to think that far out? deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: yes, the private
sector plays a critical role. it plays a critical role in different ways. one is critical operators. oil and gas, fema does not control how the fuel is distributed. --y are following a disaster following a disaster, people need fuel. we need to work in partnership. we do that, including our colleagues who do it for structure and cyber. we work with those owners and operators. work with them now, so we are good partners when a disaster strikes. two, we work regularly with retailers, big-box stores, hardware stores at a national level to make sure we have a strong partnership.
the faster the home depot opens, the faster you can recover from the disaster. we realize the private sector is a key partner. we are embracing them in a way we never had before. we still talk about a three-legged stool, federal government, state government, and local government. a colleague says it is actually four-legged stool, private sector helps us. mr. cilluffo: going back, even when you look at lessons learned post to trina, you mentioned the sticks.ce of which -- of logistics. otherere some of the potential lessons you are seeing from a communications perspective? when i look back, it was walmart, i think, because they
have a sophisticated supply chain infrastructure. are there lessons female is -- learning?ma is into there fema fit actual response.? is a first -- response. is a first responder or enabler? deputy administrator dr. we worki: yes, fema, with major retailers and large companies. disasters, allo our local. fema does not have a role in hardwaren individual or grocery store. local governments should work with their retailers.
need to take the -- as well as disaster survivors and have sophisticated continuity plans in place. make sure they had generators, fuel, and other necessities they will need following a disaster. again, to protect their shareholders and disaster survivors. you mentioned medications. when we give you an example -- mentioned communications. let me give you an example. there is a lack of awareness of a was going on in the early days after hurricane maria came ashore. it was because the medication and researcher had been damaged or destroyed. not effectively respond to our recover from that disaster without solid communication networks.
we at fema did everything we sould to support the logistic effort. it was the companies that stepped up to the plate -- the cell companies that stepped up to the plate. they saw it as a key mission. rico, the towers were damaged or destroyed. they do not have generators. they do not have fuel -- whatever it was, one cell company came in and did not just fix their power, they would fix all of the towers in the surrounding area. many of the towers are on a hilltop. they would fix their competitors'equipment -- competitors' equipment. they took a step further and an open enrollment. enrollment.d
-- theytored -- htey restored services and allowed open roaming -- that is incredible. it is the kind of support -- without that support, the recovery would have been more challenging than what we experienced. deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: -- mr. cilluffo: i want to build on -- general eisenhower, one of my favorite quotes, plant are useless -- plans are useless. planning to be indispensable -- how do you take the concept into reality that you provided in your strategic plan? we need to know what direction we are going in. it is great you put the key components of it together. have you execute? deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: we thought a lot
about this. we did not want this plan or any plants to sit on a shelf. we cannot afford it. our operational plans to not sit on a shelf. state and local governments do the same. --you are not planning training, exercising to the plants, you will fail you take the plant off the shelf for the first time. we have and limitation plans for implementationve plans for each goal. boss, administered along, is holy is accountable. long, isstrator holding us accountable. we are being public about each of our objectives. you can see how we are measuring ourselves, how we measure success. mr. cilluffo: awesome.
when looking at planning and readying for catastrophic disasters, nationstates are it is an addition -- combination of all the above, what are you doing differently? how does a factor in to the strategic planning and thinking? is it taking on greater priority these days? you think of kim jong-un and north korea, potential threats. threats. of space where do the state actors fit into this? deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: we talk about emerging threats in the plan. i will be more specific. mentioned, this -- was sounded.
fema had a civil defense mission rather than a rapid response mission. we are finding ourselves going back to the future. we need to get back to some of our roots and look at the civil event planning fema did -- that we as a nation did, back in the cold war, to prepare for today and tomorrow. one specific way, we are hosting national security emergency planning seminars. we are doing the seminars for our federal partners. anybody in the federal government that has a mission on this topic has been attending the seminars fema has been hosting. think of it as us doing it in historical context for the new threats. for cyber -- mr. cilluffo: you know, you cannot escape. deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: nationstate is one,
ciber is another. cyber -- cyber is another. we are looking at innovative ways to meet the objectives dhs has. if there was someone from dhs here, they would talk about the need to secure election infrastructure. at how weking at ways can support the mission. mr. cilluffo: just a thought, ultimately, they need to articulate and implement deterrent strategies is large and elusive in the cyber domain. i think we think of nuclear. a critical component is to minimize the impact to the adversary's intent. resilience is important. importantma has an
role to contribute to the cyber mission, especially with the convergence of the individual assignment risk. that drives me to the insurance question. i think you rightly highlighted the important role insurance plays. can you elaborate on it a little bit, especially since, as far as i know, you're the most senior fema officials who comes from an insurance background. he went from a crunching and modeling perspective as well in the past. what should we think about there? deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: an individual with insurance will recover faster. it goes from the individual level to the federal government level. the reason insurance is important to us is manyfold. for any one of you who is injured, it is one less person we have to manage our individual assistance program. it is one more survivor we can help better.
you can help your fellow citizens have insurance. some cannot afford insurance. that is who our program is meant for. i want to educate everyone to say, unit insurance. specifically, flood insurance. any home can flood. just because you are not required to have it with your mortgage does not mean you should write off the idea of flood insurance. , homes whileharvey outside of the floodplain suffered total losses. a few thousand dollars from fema will not make them whole. we announced something this week. our flood insurance program is in debt. without proper reforms from congress, we will continue to go deeper and deeper into debt. we need the reforms from congress.
failing those reforms, we have ability at fema to address challenges. when is through reinsurance. reinsurance is what it sounds like. it is insurers of the insurer. insurers can offload some of the risk, aggregate risk to a reinsurer. began aently reinsurance program. we are transferring some of our risk -- think of the and if i.t. as a primary insurance -- think of the nfit as a primary insurance. the taxpayers are not holding the risk anymore. lastly, we took it to the next level. we transfer the risk to private reinsurers. we transfer it to the capital market through insurance length security. many of you have heard of catastrophe bonds. it is a type of insurance, like security. we put out a notice this week we
intend to go to the capital market to transfer some of the risk. -- risk through these insurance length securities. is innovative. it reduces -- it is innovative. it will makee -- our program stronger. mr. cilluffo: let me pick up on that. then, i will open it up and pull a couple of people. when you think innovation and government, a lot of people think it is an oxymoron. you are starting to see innovative approaches at fema. what else, in addition to ,ngaging the insurance sector how are you cutting some of the bureaucratic labyrinth in some of these issues? gets hard because you
graded on something that does not lead itself through innovation. as we all know, all success breeds from star tissue. you do not get it right the first time. the government is a hard place to make a mistake. how do we learn from it? had we build from it? how do we turn -- how do we build from it? how do we turn a bad story into a positive future? someuccess is based on failure. deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: this is an goal three, reducing complexity. we highlighted several programs. there is no better time to pilots of the innovative, especially with texas housing. it is time for us to take risk and say, this is likely -- this innovation will likely be better than us doing the status quo, even though the status quo may
be easier. long-term innovation will likely be better. housing, withh requirerams, they damage assessments. you have to have an adjuster, and look at your property. the same thing with our individual assistance programs and nist programs. in some cases, there are not one, but two, 3, 4 inspectors visiting a residence. italy's assistance and does not make sense. -- it delays assistance and the make sense. mr. cilluffo: what do you do about it? [laughter] deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: we cannot take it overnight. we have statutory requirements. one program in florida and in onewhere we looked --
state, we look at flood insurance. in the other, we looked at mitigations. innovative, by getting mitigation and insurance and individual assistance teams together prior to doing inspections and saying, let's do it this way rather than separately, not only was a factor -- was faster, but it's it millions of dollars. i would love to take credit for this, but it was because someone said, this is not make any sense. and theting at a desk other is sitting over there. let's streamline this. we will take the best practices. it could translate into much larger sums in the future and streamline the survivor process. mr. cilluffo: it is important
every what enable some of it -- everyone enables some of it. complicated in a disaster response because a lot of anger pointing. it is a complex issue everyone to allow it to change. i want to play one of our board members, dr. paul stockton, the head of homeland defense at dod. when we think of catastrophic types of risk and threat, the homeland of defense, homeland security mission comes together. you have done a lot of work on security inelectric particular. when you think of critical infrastructure, there is no
question, if you have no power, nothing else matters. i want to pull you into the conversation and get your thoughts on where we are going and where we should go. dr. stockton: thanks, frank. the end, you mentioned you felt lucky to get into the game at a time -- at the time maria rolled around. i thank you on behalf of the american people. my question is -- what is fema going to do with its partners to strengthen cross sector resilience? different if a structure sector's depend -- instructor sectors depend on each other to rapidly restore service. you mentioned three kitchen is essential for power companies -- mentioned munication is essential for power companies -- mentioned communication is essential for power companies. what is female going to do to support cross sector infrastructure budget -- what is fema going to do support
cross sector infrastructure budget support? deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: there were lessons learned in harvey and irma that fed into maria. theof the lessons was owners and operators needed to -- we may have not done it well. struck, it wasia apparent someone had learned the lesson. we had many of the owners and operators asking headquarters in our off-center during the disaster. it does not address your question. it is a 1.0. it is making sure we have a strong partnership. the esf needs to align to its sectors. the emergency support functions fema uses needs to align with the critical infrastructure
structure. we need to do a better job of it. is the you talked about cross sector sigrid as asian. -- sector synchronization. it may be ambitious, but achievable. let's take one esf or a couple of sectors, for example. i agree power and communication and water are interconnected. without power, even if you had water, you cannot pump it. it was in the pipes. power clearly impacts it. communication, if you want to figure out where the power needs to be restored, where the lines are down, you have to communicate with someone. you need communication powers up. they got the private sector step up to the plate and restored to medication rapidly.
it enabled us -- restored communication rapidly. it enabled us. it is ambitious, but achievable for us to have -- to say, in the near term, let's understand the cross sector interdependencies of critical infrastructure, so we can be better prepared in the future to address complex intersection outages. >> can i pull the one thread -- pull the thread further? telecommunications, electric, trepidation, and water are the outliers, depending on how you look. they are critical. have you thought about, given the emphasis of the role of the private sector. when the balloon goes up, operationally, they are a part
of the response. do you think they have to have a bigger seat? if you are in a room dealing with a crisis, should the top folks from the electric company have a seat at the table? should the top folks from the community should firms have a seat at the table with the agency? do you think it is something we should envision going forward? deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: it is clear that a to have to be stable -- they need to be at the table. it is that dhs through the intersection protection division . during disasters, they were at the table. the same way they would be at the table during a cyber scenario. many exercises are on these topics. are very involved in that program. in a program.
it is the fed sitting at the private sector's table, to be honest. we need to have a better idea what they are going to do during a disaster. quite weekly, how we can support it and how we can together support disaster survivors -- quite frankly, how we can support it and how we can together support disaster survivors. mr. cilluffo: i want to bring one more person in and then we will open up. he is withehind -- icf and has been a huge proponent of our emergency preparedness and response efforts. -- you wereew york in new york when 9/11 occurred. i want to bring in your thoughts
. you are one of those who keeps us true to the homeland part of our mission and the prep response. john: thank you, frank. the question i have relates to the strategic priorities one and two. three major areas i think fema has made tremendous progress. one is national preparedness. -- premiered miss -- preparedness -- connected to it, fema's capacity to respond, especially after katrina. enhancement inis disaster recovery policy and programs in partnership with state and local governments. it is early in the lessons learned stage. as you look at the way fema, what are the lessons learned for how we can better and candidly
assess state and local capability? it drives the inter-agency's federal response plans, which atd to be predicated on gaps the local level. how can we better prepare states? you mentioned texas and the state's readiness. also improve the capacity in terms of states' abilities to manage -- states'abilities to manage -- manage abilites to response? deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: excellent questions. there is no better time to play for a disaster -- to prepare for a disaster.
state and local governments need to understand where the gaps are . fema plays a supporting role. , analytics forls us to understand how prepared states and localities are. more portly, how they can understand where the -- more importantly, how they can understand where the gaps are. millions of dollars of year we provide to homeland security forces and local governments. it is not just funding. it is training and exercises. statehaving a preparedness report we can agree and rally around. about what we can do to prepare in response, which i call readiness, are teams. not all states are at the same baseline level.
not every state can handle disasters. envision beinge in a handful of states now as part of a pilot. eventually, we'll act more broadly across states and other levels of government in the future. those teams are a handful of fema experts. we talked a lot about the just aboutenced fema has -- the-fema has -- about the -- fema has -- a state emergency maintenance the -- emergency -- they do have the capacity or experts. we want to build up the level of
capability. so, that state at some point in the future could manage the recovery program on their own. fema with simply provide financial support rather than administrative and personal support. >> i will ask the unfair question. regions.its integrate aal to broader -- do you see potential to integrate a broader -- but it is disaster response or threats and response or cyber critical infrastructures. transparency, it has been a pet rock of mine. deputy administrator dr. kaniewski: our fema regions are a cornerstone of the response. the regions know the states better than anybody at headquarters will of her know.
they are closer. know what needs to happen before and after disaster. i would love to have a strong original approach. i would focus dhs. have their own regions. some aligned to our region. the bigger issue is their operational capacity at the regional level. we have a robust capacity. regionsstrongly about being a cornerstone about our response. officialsnior throughout fema with a robust
staff and capability and experience. the exchanges regional. regions nine and 10 are on the west coast. what do you think they are focused on? 20 think they are preparing for every different past 20 years -- what do you think they are preparing for every -- parent forthe past -- preparing the past 20 years? you do not see it -- earthquakes. you do not see in regions four or six. it is critical for us. partners are stepping up to the plate. my equivalent at another party agency said we are going to do this. we are going to be there. we will either with you before, during, and after a disaster. we will take the regional approach. mr. cilluffo: that is good news. let's turn to questions.
wait for a mic and identify yourself. we will go keith and there, there, and there. we have a lot of questions. keith: with consulting, we had a sit jewell awareness team at red cross -- had a situational awareness team at red cross. shelters.people in last year, when hurricane irma, a similar forecast of one point. matthew was at the tail end. as irma came to shore, quarter of a million people in a evacuation shelters -- a hypothesis was everyone was paying close attention to disasters because hurricane harvey just took place.
building a culture of preparedness, it appears it does not take long for the american attention span to turn to something else. you years or months -- >> or minutes -- : yes. how do you look to sustain it? deputy administrator dr. asiewski: houston, devastating as it was, there were many positive lessons that can be infected in a good way among others. campaign.preparedness we need to get out and be visible in a sustained way to the american public. whether it is talking about ready.gov or practical skills or the need for insurance, which may be a new thing. or the fact people need to take
immediate action in disasters. they need to know where the shelters are. people evacuated. it is outstanding. how do we sustained it? -- sustain it? i want to see this on the at the store. it is the march issue of "popular mechanics." how to survive the disaster -- the equipment and integration unit. it will not be fema giving the message. it will be all of you, our partners from the media, and all of the organizations. many organizations, some we may be a part of. we need to keep the conversation going. we hired a rockstar, natalie.
she is here. i want to embarrass her. high, natalie. -- hi, natalie. she will manage the campaign. it is her second or third week on the job. she was at a conference at northeastern university, where they were talking about resilience strategies. inspiration to this. she takes me and said, everybody seems to be a fan of the federally supported and locally executed idea. it is great. but -- oh, no. [laughter] we should add something to it. it may be a risk of investing natalie or myself, because i have not discussed it with the administrator yet. her mission is great. it is federally supported, state managed, locally executed, individually prepared.
genius. [applause] thank you, natalie. facto. thank you, natalie. thank you, keith at the red cross. what a wonderful partner. many don't realize what ngo's do, the red cross, housing and feeding survivors. not a fema mission. fema cannot do that. we don't have the funding or capacity to do it. red cross has stepped up to the place along with ngo's to provide that sheltering, wonderful partners. mr. cilluffo: in here and then we will go. -- >> i'm howard smith from applied research associates and also formerly a colleague at the studies of analysis institute. commentup on that last
you made with regard to individual preparedness and how expectations play into that. you mentioned an insurance gap. there is a significant expectations gap. at the conference we attended the week, rene fieldings, director of emergency services in boston said she is renaming her organization, expectation management services. there is so much of a difference in expectations between what individuals expect out of fema and what fema can deliver. to what extent can, are you the individualt level, not the institutional, is that going to be a part of the strategy? mr. kaneiwski: thank you for pointing that term. expectation gap. this is been recorded so everyone will know you came up with it. there is an expectation gap. there is an expectation that
fema is a first responder. fema is not a first responder. some of the talking maybe haven't heard come from fema, expect it. if you haven't figured it out, we will be very blunt with the american public about what fema can and can't do, what the federal government can do and i hope state and local governments take this forward. our strategic plan is called the fema plan but it is for the field of emergency management. so much of what i'm talking about resonates with state and local emergency managers. they come up to me afterward and say, can we take this? absolutely. one state emergency manager from florida, specifically, came up to me and said, this was the bible. this was what he was going to use to galvanize the state emergency management effort on these topics.
orther the expectation gaps other priorities we have in our plan, we want to work with state and local emergency management partners to help get the word out to individuals and communities to know what we expect of them. family members, neighbors should expect from each other. neighbor should be helping neighbor. fema supports the state. bureaucratically, what the statute says, we provide supplemental assistance to the governors during a disaster. it does not say we are going to be there for every citizen. i would love to be. the expectation of the citizen needs to be -- if they are on their own for 72 hours, they need a plan. food, water, medicine.
all of these things. the mantra you have heard over and over. we need to continue that conversation and be more blunt, like i hope you have heard me be. mr. cilluffo: question up front and then we will go there. we will not get to everyone. accusight.id with from a civil defense perspective, a lot of adversaries are considering combined electromagnetic pulse attacks. that rolefema play in in strengthening the governmental and private sectors preparedness for that? empkaneiwski: i would put in the same category as nationstate, ciber, related. under emerging threats, a priority in our strategic plan. quite simply, from fema's
perspective, it does not matter which bad actor caused it. it could have been an accident. infrastructure. natural disaster. cyberattack. emp. to us it does not matter so much. it matters that we are prepared for long-term infrastructure outages. that needs to be part of our planning efforts. to make sure that state and local partners are prepared for contingencies as well. some of that is training, exercises and equipment -- funding, all of that focused in an area that may be new to us, new to fema, but sitting squarely within our core mission of all hazards approach to emergency. mr. cilluffo: catastrophic potential implications. i am with a company called care systems.
phd from gw and have taught at northeastern. anyway. i'm interested in the response part of -- [inaudible] company -- a company, [inaudible] we were there for 50 years. i was just contacted by the state of texas about getting involved in their activities. what -- wherevel, do i find more details about local, state entities that act, that have data from the past, etc.? particularly in texas.
fema that ieone a can reach -- is there someone at fema that i can reach specifically? mr. kaneiwski: i agree that having data, that is essentially a gold mine during a disaster response. there were several efforts that fema undertook during recent disasters to crowd source data. this might sound crazy. fema itself does not have access to all that data at the state and local levels. those are thousands of individual agencies responding to disasters. we rely on publicly available information. social media feeds, other public data. we have volunteers focusing on that crowdsourcing mission. they are looking at satellite imagery. there were interesting things that happened during this disaster, not because anyone at fema told them to do so. because down on the ground,
whether federal, state, or local orrgency managers, ngo's citizens themselves stepping up and saying, there is interesting data that might inform the community's response. we are very interested. we are in early days. this is part of our strategic plan, in taking some of those examples -- we will call them in formal pilots -- and making them a part of how we do business everyday. mr. cilluffo: are you thinking about ways to integrate all the not to data sets, feeds, throw buzzwords around but, machine learning, artificial intelligence? are you starting to look to what the military is able to do, with great precision and hotspots overseas -- do you feel that coming here? mr. kaneiwski: definitely.
i would be lying if i said we have it now. systemsa alone -- our are not communicating with each other. our public assistance and individual, flood insurance, inspections, our systems are the same way. we have over 200 systems at fema. 200 systems. not all of them communicate right now. we have a long way to go. this is not unknown to fema leadership. years and years we have numbness. years -- years and years we have known this. years and years of effort has been underway to synchronize systems. we have 10 individual grant systems for all the grants we have. underwayeveral efforts -- multiyear efforts that procuring andng, implementing systems. we have a long way to go. on the positive side, we have great pilots that we will use as
examples to hopefully achieve those ends. i went to silicon valley weeks ago and they embraced us, talking about these challenges. open, so to speak, i told them everything. i said, we had 200 systems for this, we have all this great data during the response and it was all done in a very ad hoc way. if silicon valley continues to embrace these ideas, we can potentially have partnerships. mr. cilluffo: what they do best and what you do best. it makes a whole lot of sense. this gentleman here. we have got to be quick on questions. >> thank you, good morning. chris, with grant thornton. many years ago i was involved with the creation of the pacific disaster center. i would like you to comment on
given that we have had advances in technology, analytic tools, collection of environmental data -- can you comment on the potential for environmental intelligence to assist with the pre-positioning of response and recovery resources? mr. kaneiwski: great. something forward-looking like that is exactly what we desire. that would be wonderful for us to have. are we close? no. we are fema. that does not mean there isn't innovation in the private sector, academia and elsewhere. in the insurance industry, i saw those advanced analytics. how we can synchronize that with their needs, is really a priority on the innovation side. yes, we are very interested. those are some areas we are exploring. mr. cilluffo: one thing, technology is amazing. but it is a means to an end.
theect me if i'm wrong, emergency managing community at large is a little more scar muddy operationally, boots, get on the ground and get things done. it is sort of where the military may have been a few years back. now you're are starting to see all that capability at the very pointy end of the spear. is that there, culture matters. things theyto do have done well forever, hard to get them to change even if it could enhance capability. mr. kaneiwski: just moving from paper-based to electronic. something the private sector did 20 years ago. don't assume that every local emergency management system has that capability. mr. cilluffo: question here. >> i'm also with grant thornton.
reducing complexity at fema, you're very streamlined with omb capitals, when it comes to ranking experience. you have 10 grant systems. where do you feel the current gaps are? how it is not supporting or how it can be enhanced to fit your vision? mr. kaneiwski: a great question. there has been a multiyear planning effort on something called gmm. grant monetization. that is a major undertaking. if it could have been solved simply by now it would have been. it will still be several more years. investment, in i.t. infrastructure as well as what frank mentioned, culture. your bringing together programs, not used to working together, for that particular end.
grants management monetization, gmm, one example of where fema is tempting -- is attempting to make the system seamless to the survivor disaster and the governments that receive grants. mr. cilluffo: time for one more question. anyone have a burning question? we will go here. yes? -- thenshepherdson shepherdson,- ben and reducing complexity, last year there were multiple events to be handled. what would you ideally like to see, integrating those different components into a rapidly developing integrative approach? how would you go about integrating those elements to very much achieve the ultimate
goal of reducing complexity? mr. kaneiwski: thank you for highlighting that it was not just hurricanes. there were multiple, catastrophic wildfires in california. devastating impacts. our administrator said he had never seen anything like that before. it looked like a bomb and often the neighborhoods -- a bomb went off in the neighborhoods. it does noters -- matter what the hazard is, people lacked insurance. their property and casualty insurance -- they were either underinsured, or their policies did not include fire and they did not know it ahead of time. there is one thing i can do on the insurance i'd, the same thing i can tell you to go to ready.gov and learn how to turn your water, power, gas off. talk to your insurance agent. give them a call.
mi properly insured for these perils? mr. cilluffo: cyber. [laughter] accountingki: do an of your belongings. if you have not looked at your policy in several years, i am betting your families have grown. maybe you got your furniture. there is a high probability that many of us are underinsured. whether it be wildfires, hurricanes, or other risks we face every day in some of these areas, we need to make sure that all of us are prepared for those hazards that are specific to our area, or ones that we have not given a lot of thought to, because we did not see it as the danger that we saw during the cold war, or we are not all cyber geeks like frank. [laughter] mr. cilluffo: on behalf of all
of us, please join me in thanking dan. [applause] i know i speak for everyone here, thank you for your service. for the men and women you lead. most importantly, the mission does affect in touch everyone and we tend to only think about it when something bad happens. i hope everyone thinks about it well in advance and whatever tools we can do to help you get the job done, we want to provide. thank you. mr. kaneiwski: thanks. [applause]
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